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« Thread started on: Apr 10th, 2007, 03:06am »

I revisited that film today. I listened to the excellent pod cast and was inspired to see it again. What a great film. As they mention in the podcast, everything is over the top in it. But what keeps the film from becoming a parody are the performances of the four leads. Honestly, all 4 (Liz Scott, Van Heflin, Kirk Douglas and Barbara Stanwyck) are all just great. I went back and also re-read the NOTW review from a while back too. I think the first time I saw this I was disappointed that it was more of a melodrama than a noir. But I've changed my mind. It's a great combo of both... with some great over-the-top sets (like Babs' mansion) and clothes (from Edith Head).

The dialog is sharp as a knife to boot...

http://noiroftheweek.blogspot.com/2005/12/strange-love-of-martha-ivers-1946.html#links - The Noir of the Week

and the Pod Cast - http://outofthepast.libsyn.org/index.php?post_id=198891#



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« Reply #1 on: Apr 10th, 2007, 10:42am »

I did the same over Easter.

The kid who played the young Kirk Douglas character was particularly good I thought.

Of the films I`ve seen her in I think "Dead Reckoning" is Scott`s best.

It`s strange. I look at Rita Hayworth in "Lady From Shanghai" and I think, `Stunning!`; I look at Lauren Bacall in, "The Big Sleep" and I think, "Phwoar!`; but I look at Lizabeth Scott and I can`t make up my mind as to whether she`s gorgeous or gruesome. She has a strange face. Oh, and the less said about her in Michael Caine`s noir-spoof, "Pulp" the better.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 10th, 2007, 1:29pm »

I only recently (couple of months ago) saw Strange Love of Martha Ivers for the first time and agree that all four leads are terrific.

Even more importantly -- thanks for posting that podcast link. There's tonnes of terrific looking stuff in there that I'm now downloading.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 7th, 2007, 03:21am »

I love this movie. I was surprised when it cropped up on DVD in a decent print recently. Definately a keeper. Kirk is brilliant in his debut. Can you imagine; his first 2 movies were this and Out of the Past! What a start! Also, Iverstown is one of my favourite noir cities. Anyone know where this was shot?
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 4th, 2007, 5:20pm »

And don't forget the always wonderful Judith Anderson as the nasty old aunt that Martha pushes down the stairs, thereby setting the plot in motion.

Judith Anderson has had some plum roles, Mrs. Danvers in Rebecca and Mrs. Ann Treadwell, Laura's aunt. Ellen Morgan in The Red House, Emily Brent in And Then There Were None.

I have to agree about Lizabeth Scott, sometimes she can looks quite lovely, and other times she is just plain odd looking and not attractive at all. I always call her the poor man's Lauren Bacall.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 6th, 2007, 08:33am »

Don't forget Judith Anderson as Laura's socialite aunt. I aways find the casting of that film interesting. Webb, Price and Anderson all seem to have questionable sexual orientation. Anderson was also in The Ten Commandments and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof... talk about some good movies.

And The Red House! What a great film! Its a shame that most copies of that one seem to have sunk with EG Robinson.

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 6th, 2007, 10:50am »

on Dec 6th, 2007, 08:33am, Steve-O wrote:
Don't forget Judith Anderson as Laura's socialite aunt. I aways find the casting of that film interesting. Webb, Price and Anderson all seem to have questionable sexual orientation. Anderson was also in The Ten Commandments and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof... talk about some good movies.

And The Red House! What a great film! Its a shame that most copies of that one seem to have sunk with EG Robinson.

Yes, Mrs. Ann Treadwell. I agree she was the most masculine character in the film, well except for the Detective Mark McPherson. Laura really seemed to be surrounded by sexually ambiguous men, that is probably one of the reasons she fell so hard and fast for Mark. She finally found a tough talking, no nonsense masculine man.
I always found the opening scene quite interesting, were we have Waldo in the bathtub talking to McPherson. I always wonder how McPherson got into Waldo's apartment though, we never see anybody else in the apartment?
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 11th, 2008, 11:27am »

Judith Anderson was also in another great noir, "The Pursued" starring Robert Mitchum. A dark and really rather good, psychological western.
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 11:22pm »

I am watching this movie now.
What a great film this is.
I am a huge Kirk Douglas, Van Heflin and Barbara Stanwyck fan so this is one movie I enjoy all the way through!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 22nd, 2008, 9:12pm »

HI! BAN Members,
I just recently purchased a pretty decent (print) copy of the film "The Strange Loves of Martha Ivers" which was released by Paramount Pictures.
Because every copy of the film "The Strange Love of Martha Ivers" that I did own were "public" domain copies and needed to be restored.

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« Reply #10 on: Mar 23rd, 2009, 08:50am »

Judith Anderson and Barbara were in that great Anthony Mann noirish western The Furies.

They had some really powerful scenes together.
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